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@mcwumbly wrote: Coincidentally, I was chatting about this topic with some folks the other day. We were all devs who believe strongly in shipping continuously to our clients, but asked the question,...
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@2468ben wrote: Ok, how about this: Would anyone like to work on a little Ember site that scrapes/api-calls a bunch of these different sources and shows some recent lists on one page? Sort them all by...
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@stefan wrote: 2468ben: Would anyone like to work on a little Ember site that scrapes/api-calls a bunch of these different sources and shows some recent lists on one page? Sort them all by date,...
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@tarasm wrote: EmberWeekly/EmberWatch/EmberFlare & EmberSherpa are starting to work on this. Would you like to help us make it happen? Read full topic
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@stefan wrote: and yes, i would love curated questions to bubble up to me. It is extremely hard to keep up with how fast the community it growing, I would love to go over each and every question and...
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@2468ben wrote: Yes, I sure would. I'll send you a message. It's great to hear that you all are already starting to work together on things. Read full topic
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@2468ben wrote: On a related note to the release cycle, is there somewhere in the guides (or on the main pages) that links to the Road to 2.0, future-proofing, etc.? I'm personally aware of all the...
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@fpauser wrote: We use ember since its "sproutcore-2.0-days" for multiple applications in production. In the ember-0.x-days upgrades often required quite some research + refactoring. Since ember-1.0...
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@sandstrom wrote: We've certainly felt upgrade pain — we've used Ember since before it was called »Ember«. Also, we're a 1 person tech team (myself) at a small startup. However, I like the current...
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@Gaurav0 wrote: I'm very glad to see the core team has admitted in their meeting that "there are real issues" and that an LTS release is not really a solution. Notes here:...
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@domchristie wrote: Gaurav0: I hope to once again emphasize that API churn, not a fast release cycle, is the real problem. I feel like the the two are inextricably linked: Gaurav0: Lack of...
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@wycats wrote: domchristie: Either the changes are too big to be documented in time, or the release cycles are too short, or perhaps both. I think this hits the nail on the head. The problem isn't...
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@Gaurav0 wrote: wycats: The problem isn't necessarily churn intrinsically, but rather that we are shipping features without meeting all of the requirements for a new feature. Totally disagree. The...
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@wycats wrote: Gaurav0: When you have 25+ (counting all 1.13 Ember releases together) classes and methods deprecated and then removed just six weeks later, more documentation cannot fix the upgrade...
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@Gaurav0 wrote: I am talking about 25+ deprecations, not releases, that is classes and methods deprecated in 1.13.x due to be removed in just a few weeks. Read full topic
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@kylecoberly wrote: Is not 1.13 not kind of a special case though? As the last of the 1.x series, I think it's been stated elsewhere that 1.13 will continue to get patched for a while longer to...
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@wycats wrote: kylecoberly: Is not 1.13 not kind of a special case though? As the last of the 1.x series, I think it's been stated elsewhere that 1.13 will continue to get patched for a while longer...
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@Bob_Myers wrote: Great conversation. My two cents, expanding on some points others have made: I get the point that developers can choose how often to upgrade. Let's say I'm on Ember 1.11 and want to...
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@pixelhandler wrote: So I'm thinking… What would motivate app developers to participate in some kind of beta feedback program? I work on an app that has been around for 1-3 years (actually a group of...
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@Gaurav0 wrote: wycats: Yes. 1.13 is the only release so far that has included deprecations to public APIs that will be removed in the next release. The next time that will happen will be in the...
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@Wayne_Douglas wrote: Isn't 1.13 just 2.0 in reality? 2.0 wasn't really a release no? Read full topic
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@jthoburn wrote: Feature wise, yes, internally no. 2.0 drops deprecated features, IE8 support, etc which leads to 2.0 being a slimmer library with better performance. Read full topic
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@donz wrote: As a real old timer I would like to comment on the (frustrations of the ember) release cycle. brag/ My old-timer credentials: First computer used vacuum tubes, drum memory and MUCH paper...
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@pixelhandler wrote: @donz well said, It may get better soon the core team has said a few times that they won't merge features without docs and there is doc team working on updating the tutorials. But...
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@xcambar wrote: donz: have taken to ignoring any tutorials/posts dated before April 2015 Exactly my situation. I have found a decent, hard-won and mostly manual workflow for updating code and staying...
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